Comparing Light and Bright Spring

Great Q from readers,

1. Obviously Light and Bright Spring share the same parent Season, but I wondered how Summer/ Winter manifest their influence on the palettes and on the people? 

The Light Spring palette contains a Summer touch, which alters the True Spring colours by doing what Summer does … it cools, softens, and lightens them.

Under the wave of Winter’s wand, Bright Spring is overall darker and goes to a much darker endpoint (the lightest to darkest range is very wide, getting close but not fully to pure white and black), and is strongly pigmented. Its heat level is the same as Light-Spring, meaning on the warm edge of neutral, where neutral is halfway between warm and cool.

I can see you there reading, thinking, “Yes, yes, I know all that. But how much does Summer cool, soften, and lighten True Spring?”

It’s impossible to describe verbally and is best understood by seeing it. You can see some pretty good approximations by searching ‘Season palettes’ on Pinterest, my new favourite hangout.  I bring my iPad to bed. I’m like Harry Potter under the covers with his magic wand long after he should have been asleep. Scanning those pictures to add to the two boards, Shopping for Your Season&Style and RealWoman Sex appeal, is addictive. Social media, ay? Once you find the right one, it owns you. Rachel, whom you’ll meet formally soon, is to personal line and shape analysis what I have been to personal colour analysis. We contribute to each item pinned from both perspectives. Very cool information, very cool way to shop.

The blue book over on the right, RTYNC, contains 28-colour layouts (also pretty good approximations) of the 12 groups to give you a sense of the jump in the colour dimensions from one group to the next. It also contains a lot more verbal description and analogy if you learn better that way.

How does Summer manifest in a Light Spring person? Even harder to nail down. The person does not usually have sharpness, which might mean in features (Julie Andrews’ nose and teeth) or character. See the woman wearing the pink dress in Polyvore 4? Could look about like that, though happier expression.

But where’s the line? What would you call sharp? Is teasing sharp because Lights have that? They can certainly have pointed chins, eyes, and teeth.

2. How do Summer and Winter’s presence come across in Bright Spring people?

Summer tends to create a person who is more aware and concerned of how others think and feel, but not always. Summer has great decency. In Winter, there  may be less concern with saying what others want to hear and more emphasis on fairness, and that is decent too.

We could say that Summer contributes a pleasant, well-mannered character. Sounds watered down. Light Spring is by no means dilute. The person may be very talkative or quite spunky (as opposed to determined, more Autumn), which come in with Spring. That said, a Summer can talk, oh boy, as they work through ideas. They have plenty strong intentions, especially when they feel honour (not quite the same as Winter’s pride) lays in the balance.

As they learn the draping process, students are shown how to deliberately seek out the effects of the 4 True Seasons’ colours in the client’s face. Later, as the drape colours become more specific and the presence of certain Seasons may be much smaller, they remember those effects from the coarser level and can come back now and apply them on a finer scale. In the story that follows, how would Winter and Summer manifest in a person on a much finer scale (since, in 12 Season PCA, Light and Bright Spring contain a small amount of Summer and Winter, respectively – how small? Different in everyone. Some Light Springs have a lot of Summer, some much more Spring.)

Summer and Winter visit their friend, Dara*. Dara is trying a new Style in her clothing choices. Her husband, Ted*, has a successful sign-making business and they just built a new house. Winter sees the house and Dara’s clothes. She thinks, “Yeah, it’s a nice house. I might try those kinds of curtains. I’m not so sure of my Style type. I think I have more Yin and need rounder lines and more decoration. I’m being too minimalistic.” Winter goes home. She thinks and thinks and searches and thinks and studies pictures and makes her mother look at a thousand images on her phone (which the mother thinks all look the same but no way is she about to say so). Next time you see her, she’s added a silver chain. Had to take off the earrings and bracelet though, they were too much. Her clothes are about the same. You ask about her visit to Dara, “Her house is very nice. What else can I say? It’s her house, got nothing to do with me. I was impressed with her new clothing styles. She’s right about herself. I’m evolving my own style.” And you sit there thinking, “Is this a trick question?”

Summer calls you the day after the visit. “Dara’s house is so beautiful. She looked great, she always does. I hope she’ll be very happy there. Didn’t you feel so sad for her? (Winter is thinking, “Is this a trick question?”) Deep down, she despises that house. (Summer’s eyes are all big and round and teary, and she puts lots of feeling behind her words, especially despises.) Dara doesn’t enjoy it, she wishes they were back in the old house. All she can feel is Ted’s business taking him away from her all the time to pay for it. I’m just baking her some banana bread for the kids and taking her out to lunch later today.”

How does Winter manifest in Bright Spring? They hold themselves a little apart. Their feeling about the world and their place in it is more controlled. When Summer and you have a conversation, she’s nodding. She can hear how you feel. Winter is moving very little, conserving emotional output. Summer is using her hands. She is out of herself , thinking about she relates to you. She sent you the testimonials you asked for within a week of getting home :). From Winter, you’ll be waiting. She got home, went back right into own her head, and will think of you in terms of how you relate to her.

3. I heard the palettes are similar – do you see Light Spring as a lighter version of Bright at all?

They’re similar but just lightening Bright Spring won’t get you Light. Maybe fading Bright might do so with some complement and lightening it with some white. Light Spring is creamy, which gives it a frosted glass haze or milky glow that Bright Spring absolutely wouldn’t have. The Bright Spring windshield is crystal clear and the pigment concentration is dialed way up.

It’s like the difference between

Photo: Ayla87
Photo: Ayla87

 

and

 

Photo: Alfi007
Photo: Alfi007

 

Both warm-neutral to warm. The Bright (bottom) has icy colours. Light (top) doesn’t approach white. Note that neither image represents the whole palette nor what is possible with it.

4. Could they theoretically borrow any colours (even though this isn’t the best option)?

I’m glad that you asked this good question. I feel that I often answer Q wearing one of two hats and how are people expected to know which is on when?

In general,

You know how you fan out any swatch book and no colour is more or less than any other? Your attention is equally divided when the fan is opened up. They have equal visual energy. If you moved one of those Light Spring flowers into the Bright Spring bouquet, even if the colours were all pinks, it would get a little lost. You’d ignore it more.  If that were the blouse, worn with a Bright Spring skirt, you’d be looking at the skirt.

If you lifted the butterfly onto the Light bouquet, it would be hard to see anything else. As when a Light wears a Bright’s lipstick. When palettes have a lot in common, as Light and Bright Spring, some colours will work well enough but others will be too prominent. The pinks might be quite comfortable and belonging but the yellows will jump out at you.

Wearing the first hat: In a theory situation, as the question states, such as during the training course, the answer is no. We learn how to place any colour, clothing, cosmetic, or any person, into one Season. The Q is, “Which 1 of the 12?”

#2 hat is worn when advising a woman shopping. She is using the system in another way. The only question she needs to work out is, “Me or Not Me?”

Each application is equally important. First, we learn the rules of the road and the driving laws. As drivers, we take shortcuts with a subconscious sense of where and when. The woman who understands her colour palette can discern which shortcuts are safe and logical and which will be unsuccessful. She’ll have a few fender benders along the way but at least she’s behind the wheel of her own car, taking herself where she decides to go.

Say you’re the woman shopping. Working through the compromises of the retail world might open up 5 more questions,

  • How close in colour is good enough? What kind of person am I on this subject?
  • How fast do I need to buy this item?
  • Am I spending $50 or $500?
  • Are the lines of the item so exceptional for me that I’m not passing it up on a little colour issue that will make hardly any difference. You can see examples of this on the Shopping for Your Style and Season board at Pinterest. (the link at the bottom of the R column on this page may take you there, but the website is having a mini nervous breakdown about weekly till it’s upgraded. The link is here too.)
  • Do I think the colour might be Light Spring and I know I’m a Bright but I think it looks great in this composition?
  • Is this an item that really could fit well into several Seasons, even according to uptight analysts like Christine?  When I look at the Shopping for Your Season and Style board at Pinterest, most items are good in two or more groups. She must be wearing #2 hat. (You’re so right. Sometimes, it doesn’t matter. PCA is a life-transforming tool, like a driver’s license or a computer. I want that for you. Being too rigid means missing too many fantastic clothes.) In both hats, jewelry and makeup are definitely mobile in most cases. Many clothes too, if they’re not right up under the face or are in small real estate. Not every element needs to be perfect for the whole thing to harmonize very nicely. In many paintings, prints, and ensembles, the other colours help create the belonging.

 

 Mostly Light Spring

 

Mostly Light Spring

 

Mostly Bright Spring 

Mostly Bright Spring

5. Some of the warm pinks/apricots look similar – how do I know if I’m looking at Light or Bright Spring when choosing these colours?

You can think colour correctness to death and still get it wrong. I do. We all have to compare it to something. You can compare it to anything, a cosmetic, another item of clothing, a painting, a cushion.

Women who own their own Luxury Drapes (or a closet that is colour accurate) can place the item among the good colours and see if it holds its own, is more, or not enough. They’re full-sized drapes so it’s easy to see colours balance and energize. The article about those drapes is being moved to its own post, it will reappear soon.

Because these 2 colour groups share so much, to choose between them will require forcing the extreme that the other won’t tolerate. Light Spring’s muting will be Bright Spring biggest complaint, while Light Spring will ricochet back the other way when she sees the darkness of Bright. So compare to black. It’s dark and saturated. The booties on the bottom next to the perfume – the peach must be Winter influenced to be energetically equal to white and black. The yellow jacket, the same. There’s enough peach in the peach and yellow in the yellow to balance a lightness extreme (white) and a darkness and saturation one (black). These may be Bright Winter outfits because the white and black are not in Bright Spring colours, but they’re useful to judge the balance.

Some colours matter more than others. The peach coat (lower image) might be a little weak but it’s workable. Gray is good at becoming what’s around it. Jeans adapt pretty well if their darkness level is the same as the overall for that Season and they’re just blue. Red and green are less cooperative. Sometimes, it depends on the viewer. Some people are very sensitive to yellow. I am to orange. These colours are either right or not right, but there’s not much you can do about that.

How about the coral dress that appears in both layouts? Where is it energetically more even in the composition? Compare it to the bouquets as well. Is it perfect in either? Is it workable in one, both, or none?

Light Spring was looking all dreamy and holiday till I inserted that green purse. Is that item helping the nice feelings or is it taking over? Is everything around it washed out and falling back? That’s what a Light Spring woman looks like wearing Bright colours. She fades and drops – or, looks older and tired, like the Light Spring clothes next to the purse that look something that doesn’t feel good…. washed too many times…dirty…dull? The green looks aggressive plus it’s all you can see.

Shopping for Bright Spring (Looking Normal)

 

Shopping for Bright Spring 2

 

Shopping for Bright Spring

Neutral colours (beige, taupe) could be matched a little more closely for Spring where they can be a little blah, but they’re still versatile. Where Summer and Autumn wear these colours flexibly, and  Summer and Winter can share some grays, Spring colouring wears colour colours more easily than beige and gray (IMO). Also, when we wear our neutrals, they tend to be in large block items. To excite the composition, neutrals with yellow, not muted orange (=earthy). The beige sweater in 4 (and the pants with the orange top in 3), I have no idea where it harmonizes but it works OK. Next to the very shiny necklace, the sweater isn’t looking dingy, clumsy, or chunky the way an green-beige or camel Autumn colour could on this woman. Both versions of the tights are great. Add colour somewhere!

Again, use black to judge belonging colours. Light Spring loses energy even faster than next to the green purse. Bright Spring gets close enough to black and the colours can balance black without losing ground.  The woman in the pink dresss in 4 can hold her own with the earrings but you sense some conflict. Before reading this, you thought, “Why’d she put those earrings with that dress?” Because now you get to feel it. There were a million worse choices, but still, this is not settled. I could  have wasted paragraphs.

Black is quite useful in the Bright Spring wardrobe:

  • to crisp edges of colour blocks, as the earrings with the mint blouse in 4,
  • to outline shapes in a thin black line, as in a print or colourblock, which gives a cartoon appearance that is so right on Gamine body shapes,
  • to darken the overall effect selectively without dulling, cooling, or darkening the colour blocks themselves,
  • to add Winter’s formality,
  • to slim this woman who can balance black, as the mint top and black skirt in 4, the colours are getting along fine, the black is a little strong but it doesn’t appear visually larger

Shopping Search engines are hugely helpful. Polyvore is great. A Light Summer asked recently where to find pants. At sites like Polyvore and Shopstyle, the retail world opens at your feet and it’s uncommon to find items sold out. They are a fantastic way to find your white items online. You want jeans that are a little on the green side? As a Light Spring, the answer is, “Sure do!” Give me 15 minutes. I’ll find you 5 pairs.

6. What do Light Spring colours look like on Bright Spring?

Weak. The way the creamy peach flower from the top photo would look next to the oranges in the bottom photo.

7. What does a Light Spring woman look like in Bright Spring clothes?

Forgettable. What happens to the Light Spring bouquet when the butterfly lands on it. Tired, like she’s having the life sucked out of her. All her sunshine glowing peaches and cream radiance is gone. Between her feet and the top of her head, all you see is clothes.

8. If I find an item that is very saturated and in the medium value range, which Seasons could be likely contenders? I keep getting stuck with colours like hot pink – thinking they look good due to being bright, but on closer inspection often too cool on me and don’t harmonize with the fan…

Very saturated could include the 3 Winter palettes and Bright Spring. True Spring doesn’t have hot pink.

9.a) The person who looks very wintery with dark hair and pale skin. What are the signs that she’s Bright Spring?

There are none other than how her skin reacts to the drapes. The women in the Polyvores could all be Bright Springs. Or some kind of Summer or Winter.

9. b) Should she do anything different with colours or combinations?

She probably sits closer to the cool side of her Bright Spring colouring, near the Bright Winter pigmentation. She many find that the cooler colours in cosmetics work better.

She should still wear the entire Bright Spring palette as clothing and jewelry. Those colours are all in her if the drapes measured her as Bright Spring.

I don’t get caught up on the contrast thing too much, I think it’s built into the palettes. Some women of this colouring may feel quite contrasting and prefer wider distance between lightest and darkest colours in their outfits. This woman may look (and feel) more Winter and use more jewel tones, icy lights, neutral colours, formality in apparel, and boldness in cosmetic application.

 

Here’s what I think about that coral dress from the top Polyvores. It is not beautiful in the Bright Spring group. The peach coat may not be perfect, nor the yellow shirt on the L side, but they don’t detract. The dress is dull and detracting. In the Light Spring composition, it feels better but it’s a light sink. Light should bounce out of a Light Spring palette like sunbeams, like Creamsicles. It should feel fresh, light, and happy. This dress is not what an apricot tulip would feel like. If you cover it up, the rest of the group gets better, so it’s detracting here too. Still a lovely dress. Might be just the photo, might be an Autumn colour, this is what PCA from photos is like. No idea where this item would fit and would need to try it IRL to be sure.

 

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16 thoughts on “Comparing Light and Bright Spring”

  1. I love the Shopping for your Season & Style board and have started following, to learn more about colors, but could you point us to a hint about what all this Yin, Yang, style categorization is about? Frustrating to read the pins and not have a clue.

  2. Very interesting…..I feel the same great information applies to Bright Winter and Light Summer…..maybe even more so. I think that women in particular are so accustomed to finding variety in the stores, they desire that variety in their own closets. This being the case, cheating on a palette with another one becomes a major temptation. I am so glad you took the time to really explain in detail how leading yourself astray with a chroma and value that is “not you” in spite of the hue being correct, NEVER works. You gotta have all 3 components in place! like fitting a plug into an outlet.

  3. Christine, what a great post to read on the one year anniversary of my colour analysis. You may remember that I tested as BSp.

    Comparing clothes for BSp and LSp is very helpful, I like to see the difference as well as read about it. Your new Pinterest board is super – I plan to check back regularly. And your characterization of the two seasons in #2 above was pretty funny. I recognized myself, maybe not quite as extreme:-) Agreed with your take on grey and beige as neutrals…blah. I tried grey but just didn’t like it so I’ve decided on navy and brown/black (bsp 3.2). Loved your real-world shopping comments, very helpful to a perfectionist like me.

    After thinking about this today I wanted to add a couple of other factors at play in getting colour right – age and season. Just turning 60, I find that some of the brighter colours, combined with the sheen suggested for BSp, can ‘feel’ too young, too hard edged. This can be true of lipstick as well as clothing. And large amounts of shiny bright colour don’t always feel right in fall and winter. Fabric makes a difference as well. I use a lot of linen in hot weather and wool in cold weather. Neither fabric lends itself to the sheen and saturation of BSp. So my challenge is (1) how to use my colours in a way that flatters my older face and body and (2) how to use my preferred fabrics while maintaining the colour saturation of BSp.

    Any comments?

  4. Wow, I used to think I was some kind of spring, but now that I suspect Soft Autumn and my eyes have been busy learning to differentiate all the Autumns from each other to keep from getting too hot, too light or too dark, even the Light Spring looks super bright to me! And I used to wear many of those colors. Now I hold up anything that looks faded and try to decide if it is flattering me.

    BTW, I appreciated the Sharper SA post recently and am still contemplating it.

    A question I want to ask in the future, if you have time to answer it, is how other types (light, bright, dark) look in soft colors. I see many people trying them because the colors read as soft, feminine and refined, and I can’t tell when they are flattered and when not. When a Soft wears the right soft colors, do her eyes sparkle and her skin glow? Or is she supposed to look soft all over?

  5. I think you partly answered my question just above on your pinterest Commentary Booth. You talk about Spring [I knew it!!] Kaley Cuoco and how her awards dress, an antique soft pink, wasn’t as good as the bright clothes she wore in the laundry room. I had just watched this interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRFIUjAqgg4 where she is wearing a soft pink sweatshirt. I thought she looked powdery and tired.

    The only think is, that powdery look she has in the video reminds me of the look I have in some SA colors, and I just don’t know. Now I’m tempted, for the umpteenth time since the 80’s, to wonder if I COULD be a Spring after all… I’ve bought quite a few taupe things that I love, but maybe I need to think about Light Spring for a while.

  6. What a fantastic article! Thanks so much for doing this one – very helpful information. I love the polyvores too, and incidentally, I recently bought a pink coat very similar to the one listed – it’s one of my best colours and the lines are great too. I’m really interested in the differences between lsp and bsp, as whilst bsp won out in the draping, lsp was also very good. I’m coming to realise what a difference getting the heat level right makes, and think I can “cheat” quite a few lsp colours fairly reasonably if need be.

    It’s interesting what you say about black. As an artist given the task of mixing the value range of my hair, I would say closer to that end of the grayscale than lighter. However, I recently saw some photos of myself wearing black patent pumps at an event, and they were way way darker – hair looks beige in comparison – black pumps don’t turn out to repeat the value of the hair at all, despite it’s apparent “darkness” at first glance. Interesting how colour and tone are so relative.

    So much food for thought in this article – think I’ll be re- reading many times!

  7. I love seeing the differences in the video that Linda linked. I was branded a Summer back in the early 80s when there were only 4 seasons, and I’m convinced that the reason is that my analyst then used only 2 drapes to determine warm or cool – a bright, clear Fuschia vs. a very muted rusty orange. Well, for me, as a BrSpring, the muted orange took all my color away, so they said “cool season” and then when the dark clarets and true blues of winter didn’t fit, they said “summer.”

    But I look just as bad in dusty pink as in dusty orange. I look like Kaley Cuoco in that video. It’s like my light got shut off.

    For me, the difference between BrSpr and LSpr shows up most in lipstick. I picked up one a few weeks ago that I thought would work because it seemed like a bright enough coral; though it was on the light side, it seemed pretty saturated. Well, when I put it on, it was just too light. It had seemed saturated IN THE TUBE, but it wasn’t ON MY FACE, so it just sat on top of my lips very uncomfortably. I found another saturated coral that looked the same in the tube, but when I put it on, it sank into my face and looked like part of me – it was actually far more saturated.

    By the way, I’ve found some of the best lipsticks by shopping the makeup lines intended for women of color, even though my skin is so light that I’ve never met anyone lighter than me. The makeup for WOC is more saturated and sits better within my BrSpr contrast and saturation needs.

  8. I can ‘cheat’ iced pink, iced lavender and iced aqua from BSpr if I accept that I’m going to look slightly washed out and they are lovely colours to wear in the summer. If I’m going to cheat out of the LSpr palette then those colours are going to be the best of a bad lot from the other 11 – but iced blue is a step too far and makes me look like I have hypothermia. Likewise hot pink is much too hard. I can also cheat some of the gentlest yellows and pinks from the Warm Spring palette if I’m careful. But the make up is the giveaway. If I put on any of the other Spring lipsticks they just don’t work, and that’s despite being a strong, relatively dark LSpr who doesn’t to first glance look light at all.

    It took a long time to learn to use my LSpr palette in the way the two stronger spring groups use theirs, with more colour and contrast because I have quite a lot of contrast. If I choose an outfit that’s too neutral or too pale or subtle I end up looking like a dark lollipop head on a pale stick and that’s one of the reasons it took time to learn how to use my palette and know it was the right one. But I need to use the LSpr palette colours to do it. There aren’t any other palettes that are going to do it better. Plus it took time to learn that the Spring colours might as well be fun or what’s the point? My job involves presenting to large groups: in my most subtle colours my energy really does get drained. I feel better and livelier and more myself in bright yellows and aquas and pinks. It was the fun of using my own colours in the right way for me that I had to learn how to do, instead of assuming that because it wasn’t immediately right I needed to look to another palette group that gave stronger or brighter. I do still struggle to find good LSpr lipsticks that aren’t a tad tepid on me, Clarins Coral Tulip is probably the most used one I own at the moment.

    The LSpr polyvore is lovely, it’s so nice to see a LSpr group that shows how lively the palette is, there’s nothing watery about any part of the Spring palette. It’s light in comparison to the other palettes, but it isn’t pale. My general guide now when buying clothes is to think more ‘gentle spring’ rather than ‘light’ in terms of pale: look for Spring first and then look for the gentler shades of it. And also ‘if I’d ice a cupcake with it, then it will probably turn out to be LSpr when I test it’. That one works well!

  9. Christine (and Rachel) – this isn’t in the right place, but I hope you’ll see it here. Would you do a post explaining the difference between YinClassic, YangClassic, and all the other types? I know I feel best in Classic, but I can’t figure out the difference between Ying and Yang from your Pinterest. Googling the terms brings up nothing further. Thanks loads!

  10. Hi, Laura :) – happy anniversary to us! Your Q…Your points are all well made. I agree that shine needs a little caution in the mature years. As the skin APPEARS to mute (though it doesn’t really alter its colours, as we know), too much wet shine (Spring) or frost (Winter) can feel artificial. But, interestingly, in terms of the colours themselves, I find many women need additional brightness or intensity to give them that lift. That may be why so many women are mistakenly placed in Spring, because it brightens things up. Problem is that the analyst was only noticing that and not the other 20 or 30 markers. The analyst forgot to ask herself, “Spring is making this face brighten but AT THE EXPENSE OF WHAT?” Also as you know, cosmetic preference is decided one woman at a time. A Natural woman who loves texture won’t feel comfortable in Dramatic makeup looks.

    Following with this, and answering the Q about where to learn about the Style Types…Autumn colouring looks good in texture. But not every woman equally. A Dramatic body will wear smoother fabrics than a Natural. Similar in Spring, a Natural woman will wear more texture than a Classic. The fascinating intersections and overlaps between body types and colouring is something we will spend this year, and I hope many more, exploring. As to resources for learning about it, stick around. They’re coming. Should be about 2 months. What Google brings up is half outdated and half not, just like PCA.

    And Laura, where to find the textures you love in the saturation you need, practice (cashmere comes in tons of colours and saturated well), compromise (linen? wear it if you love it! so what if it’s not quite enough), stretching your borders (knits), and as I so often tell myself, learning to sew/knit.

  11. I’ve been looking at that red dress trying to see why it doesn’t work. I’ve got tripped up buying similar bright red items, which have ended up being “off” somehow. I wonder if the red of the dress has too much complement in it? It looks to be de-saturated, possibly with green. Could just be my monitor, but it looks dulled, seems to be absorbing rather than reflecting light, and receding in space. The edges also look fuzzy, especially when viewed within the context of the other items. It also seems to contain a different type of heat?

  12. Oh yes, I was also just wondering Christine – is Bsp black a chromatic black? How does it differ from the winters’? Also, do BSP “colour” colours include a small amount of black pigment in the mix? Hope my ramblings make sense! Thanks :)

  13. Good eyes on the red dress, Kate – and good ability to isolate the various observations as separate entities. That’s a big part of draping a person, seeing an overall and then the details, because not every feature changes together in the same way. B Sp black – IDK what ‘chromatic black’ means in your Q? In B Sp, the darkest colour is not fully black, it’s a very dark coal. Looks better shiny or shimmery, lightens and lifts the density of the darkness a bit more. Also, IDK if B Sp contains some black in the pigments. I would guess that some colours do and some don’t, since black darkens fast and also mutes. With black’s tendency to desaturate, I wonder if B Sp uses blue to darken and keep sat high (since blue is highest sat when it’s lowest value) and yellow for Sp – that yellow lightens but also desat, which is why BW seems to me higher sat than B Sp.

  14. Thanks Christine, that’s interesting, plenty of food for thought. I suppose by “chromatic black” I mean a black (or “optical” black) that is created through the mixture of compliments. I remember you saying True Winter grey was just black and white, whereas I can imagine bsp greys (and black possibly too) having more “colour” in the mix, although maybe not necessarily… It’s interesting what you say about yellow and blue. I have to say I was very intrigued by the puzzle of the red dress colour as I have been painting a lot of roses recently!

  15. Very interesting Christine,
    I m Sara and Ive been draped as lsp, but I dont feel like it suits me.
    I ve got clear/bright blue eyes (bright turquoise or bright bluegreen ) darkblonde (light golden now) hair and an ivory with a slightly peach/pink undertone on my cheeks. My natural hair are darkashblonde with a subtle red reflex at the sun. I dont think I look good with light spring colors, theyre too light and wash me out, I look horrible with light orange lipsticks or light or dusty pinks…but my best choise are hotpink and berry lipsticks…I m a little confused, I started to think I could be another season….what do you think?

  16. I wish I could know, Sara. The truth is that you could write me 10 pages about your appearance and send me every picture of you that’s ever been taken and I still wouldn’t know. PCA has very little to do with what you look like and everything to do with how your skin reacts to colours placed next to it. I have been sent numerous pictures, the woman said what Season she feels pretty certain of, all sounded good, picture looked reasonable, and I did what I should NEVER do, which is to give advice because not everyone can get to an analyst. A few months later, she sees an analyst from our group and sends me a picture in a correct analysis environment. First, I don’t even recognize her. Second, I think, “You cannot be serious. She looks NOTHING like what I thought.” And of course, third, she is nowhere near the Season she thought. What I think is that a visit to an analyst is in order.

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