One Woman, Two Versions 2

One Woman, Two Versions 2

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43 Thoughts on One Woman, Two Versions 2

  • Melina

    Like I just wrote in the comments section of the 1st this kind of post, I would prefer to have some descriptive text included in these, although I do understand the original idea is to β€œlet pictures speak for themselves”, but the thing is, they speak different things to everyone πŸ˜‰ Here, in my opinion she is much more radiant and alive in the 1st photo, although I suspect the idea is that she should be seen as better looking in the 2nd one, with the lighter colours… Or is it actually to show that the colours in the 2nd photo are wrong for her..?

    • Christine Scaman

      I do understand your point, Melina. Here is why I prefer this format: because the logical part of the reader’s mind is stuck. It wants to take over, apply True or False scenarios, figure out the Season, get into the details, pay attention to the wrong things. It doesn’t matter how many times we say that the only ones who know how she looked in these colours were in the room at the time. The logical brain always think it knows better about everything. You’re quite right, I will hear a different story from these women than you would, or the next reader will. You’ve said the whole thing very well…there is no wrong. There might be truth but there is no wrong πŸ™‚

  • Andrea Colvile

    I think she looks more beautiful in the second photo – you can really see her properly. But I’d love text as well, I always love reading the commentary.

  • Tammy Wakeford

    Easy to get swayed by the happy face and the radiant smile. However in picture 2 her face looks calmer and her eyes are vivid in colour. I think that’s the point you’re always trying to put over.
    Will look forward to seeing more examples.
    Tammy

  • Anon

    Honestly I like the first better. She seems older in the second pic. I know I am supposed to like the second better, but I can’t say that I do.

  • Nomi

    To me she looks a little younger in the second photo with the softer colors, but there is no “better” here. She looks more alive in the first one because she has a more intense expression, with a wider smile, and her hair is making its own statement. She might want the first look when she seeks to dominate a situation and the second one when she seeks to reassure.

  • Caitlin Keely

    She is a beautiful woman and I suspect she could wear anything and with her big beaming smile appear quite lovely. However I do so how the colors in the second photo harmonize with her and her eyes are suddenly in focus and appear quite blue, whereas they seem a bit blurred and an indeterminate shade of grey in the first photo. I sort of see the first photo as an example of someone who is playing dress up and trying on a certain image, whereas in the second photo she has blossomed into her true self. I do like the use of images without any accompanying text as we are free to see without any preconceived notions.

  • Tina

    In the first photo, I see the head on top of a color. In the draping photo, I see the woman as a whole, and it is SO much more restful to the eye. Not everyone looks their best in black.

  • Erin

    She looks confident and pretty good in the first photo, but definitely younger and more serene in the second, and confident in a different, wiser way. Then, when I look back at the first, she appears slightly stressed out by comparison.

  • mpye

    She looks like two completely different people. Attractive in both but so much more relaxed and at home in the second photo. There’s a sense of relief and release for me. The same thing I experienced when I was being draped and the TW colors would come up….

  • Ineke

    There is something wrong with both……..
    The black in the first photo is too much for her, but the group with softer colors in the second photo is not right either. Sorry to say, but she looks boring.

  • Kat

    I prefer the second; in the first my eye keeps getting drawn to the intensity of hair colour vs more muted eyebrow colour, and wanting to change the intensity of one to match the other somehow. The second image i find more relaxing, think she looks lovely in those colours.

  • Michelle

    I’m really surprised by the number of responses saying she looks the same or better in the first pic. The difference is dramatic to me. In the second pic the eye color is sparkling. Skin tone is more fresh and even. Hair color makes more sense with the face. More youthful. I agree with the person who said looking from one to the other made the first picture more stressful to look at. She is obviously a lovely woman in both pics but more her best self in pic 2.

  • Emma

    Wowsers. Really. What a difference. She looks more alive in the second photo. Like light is bouncing from inside of her out into the world. Beaming. You can really see her now.

  • Laurel

    I prefer the second picture as well. Everything in the first picture disconnects with her. The dyed hair, the black sweater. And I never noticed her lovely blue eyes until the second picture. Thanks,

  • Jan

    Well, I am quite conflicted regarding both photos. She is a beautiful woman, but I notice her more in the first picture. In that one, she seems alive and vibrant but in a somewhat forced way. In the second photo, she appears more serene; however her face appears blurred, and she seems to disappear. I can’t agree that either is correct.

  • Jo

    I really enjoy this process and the comments it elicits. I’ve checked these photos on three devices and have pondered this for a while now… You are really making me LOOK and SEE. This is something I appreciate more than you know.
    Photo #1
    I used to wear masks in the sense that a look, a style, seemed like a safe bet and somehow made my life easier. I see that mask in the first photo along with the accompanying confidence that blending in brings.
    Photo #2
    Having had a color draping some years ago I understand the thousand-yard look of someone who is analyzed to colors that maybe all new, different and individualistic for her – yet somehow foreign. It does not feel safe to have ALL your constructs set aside! I love her natural hair color, the way all her features blend into a face, how they are not focal points of their own. She looks more integrated, , more sober-minded, and more “together” to me. I can more readily see HER. She is beautiful, serene.
    BIG thanks to the brave women who participate in this process, this parsing we do. I don’t know if I could stand such scrutiny and I admire you.

  • lynn

    2nd photo is the one!

    • Christine Scaman

      Yes to every single comment. Colour analysts see this level of difference every day. It makes me happy to find a way to share these pictures that evoke reaction on a deeper level than right or wrong or pretty or whatever. These paintings tell a different story, that’s all. They tell these two stories to others and to themselves, by the recursive language that appearance is, or voice for that matter.

      I, the analyst, and the model herself, are impressed and intrigued with the level of insight that readers have shown. Allow me to add an imagination teaser:

      If you’re not quite feeling the full person in the second image, try to access what you would change.

      Whatever the Season is, this photo was not taken with this blog post in mind. Could it be the drapes that happened to be there feel a little more rainbowy and lightweight than the woman?

      Some colouring groups are better expressed with neutral colours than others. Can you reach beyond what you see and imagine this painting if we insert those? Would it have said something different? Would you have felt something different?

      Of course, we have no idea what would happen till we make the changes and look, but it is fun to stretch the limits. No need to accept what we are given. We can think in terms of multiple possibilities. What if?

  • Suzanne

    On my monitor her face/head dominates the drapes in #2. A little yellow to calm the pink cheeks, chin and forehead? Light Summer?

  • Vanessa

    To me she looks like a cool season, no tolerance for heat. Face seems redder and a little oily in the first pic because of the hair color and lipstick (I assume). The background is blue, jewelry cool (good things) and the black polo a little too much, but I think it’s still better than a warm choice. I would prefer some depth (saturation?) in the colors she wears, ie the navy+blue+aqua combination she has on the right side. Not all colors too light or pastel (seems flat imo), not that the colors on the left are bad, just how to combine. She appears true summer to me. In both pics in fact. The second is better, more natural. Love the greens, blues and navies on her. Would be curious to see this situation live and compare it to what I can see in a pic on screen..might be (even very) different. Thank you Christine for these posts. Interesting to read what others find and see too!

  • Melina

    Thank you for your response, Christine. πŸ™‚

    And I’m glad I’m not the only one to prefer the 1st photo. Like I said, I think it’s all down to personal preferences… No matter how much I look, and read others’ comments, I still prefer it. πŸ˜‰

    In any case, I would love to hear what season she was draped as, but I guess that’s not the purpose of this post. πŸ™‚

  • Ally

    I see what folks are saying about the first photo, and I think we’re running into a stereotype, a familiar idea we like, and wanting to stick to it. I don’t know the lovely model and I certainly wouldn’t presume to type someone from a blurry headshot πŸ˜‰ but she has a face that is, imo, quite consistent with a Yang Natural. Naturals are FOREVER being put in Autumn, whatever their actual coloring. Remind you a bit of Julia Roberts in the first pic? Similar hair, same sort of face, and Julia would do those clothes and makeup easily. But if you look carefully (redeye’s fighting us here) you can see that the model’s eyes are *not* the expected red-black-brown, her skin not creamy ivory, and we’re seeing her face get craggy instead of smooth. She’s wearing a Dark Autumn – or Winter, either one – YangNatural costume, and we like that costume (who doesn’t like Julia Roberts?) and part of it works well, so we go with her. And, possibly, she believes it herself. Then you get her in True Summer and whoa, this is not the woman we thought we were dealing with – not the merry November dryad but a desert mermaid with dreamy wise eyes. Both good things to be, but who has the energy (and money, and time) to spend on looking like someone you’re not? I bet it was an emotionally tough transition, though.

  • Emma

    I completely understand why a lot of people prefer the first photo, the subject is a very beautiful woman and in the first photo she has a stunning smile and looks radiant and that is giving a bias. She is going to look great regardless of the hair colour and the black and the harshness. If the model wasn’t smiling and looking thoroughly happy though, I think it would present a very different picture. I think the look in the first picture is very forced.

    Imagine the model in just one of the colours in the second picture, not the spectrum shown. Imagine if she was in a evening gown in just one of those colours with hair slicked back and minimal make up and then imagine the same with black and the red hair. Imagine it was a red carpet event. In black, she would look like the assistant or P.A. in the colour she would look like the actor there because she has been nominated for an award.

  • Jane

    I think her nose, cheekbones and lips look too purple, which, to me, is not flattering. (2nd photo). There is something nice about it, but I still think it’s off. Is it too soft and light? Is she a true summer in soft summer drapes? But then, that shiny pale green drape is rather confusing – which season is that? An interesting exercise.

  • Jennifer

    I can’t believe it is the same woman, first of all. I think there are aspects of each photo that I like but would like to see a few other options. The drapes in the second photo (soft autumn?) are confusing to me because there is something harmonious about them with the lovely model, but to my eyes they take away her sparkle. But perhaps I am swayed by the abundance of color – she appears to be a woman more flattered by one color and that could be throwing me off. Very interesting discussion – thank you Christine and also your model!

  • Rosesred

    These post are great illustrations of the principles of color analysis!

    Both photo’s are appealing for different reasons. but the second photo is harmonious and calm and I vastly prefer it. I think as a culture we often tend to prefer tension in an image because we see it as dynamic. The first photo certainly contains a lot of that.

    Red (hair) and black will read as dynamic, no matter which person wears it. For me, the interesting thing about color analysis is that it will tell you how to find that same look in a way that does not overpower or underplay you as a person.

    This lady in a medium to dark gray with a beautiful rose scarf would almost certainly look as dynamic, yet much more relaxed and ‘real’ compared to the first photo.

    For me, the magic happens when a client looks into the mirror and actually sees what is happening. Which image they decide to create based on their colors is completely up to them, the options are infinite.

  • Melissa

    The colors in the second photo really do bring out her gorgeous eyes and make her skin glow. My gut relaxes and I’m seeing HER, but I had the same automatic first impression others have had–that the first photo was better. I wonder if the reason the first photo is reading as more appealing at first glance is she’s dressed how we are used to seeing women dressed with styled hair, jewelry, clothing and a big smile. No matter how beautifully the colors in the second photo connect with her, being surrounded by a bunch of drapes always looks a little clownish to me. On some subconscious level there’s the uncomfortable feeling that she’s just pulled off her clown wig after a long day at the circus , so the first photo wins. Even though on second glance it’s obvious the colors in the second photo are much better for her there could be an instinctual aversion to seeing a woman dressed like a clown. I wish we could see “after” photos with styled hair, clothing and jewelry so we could compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges. When we are only looking at photos of women in their drapes they all look breath-taking. But, put a draped version next to the version in regular clothing and jewelry and seeing regular clothing and jewelry suddenly becomes more important than even color.

  • Nicole

    In the first photo I think people only think she looks more radiant and alive, but if she had her blonde hair with that black shirt it would be more obvious that her colors are wrong. It’s easy to over paint ourselves to compensate.
    Imo

  • Jenny2

    I thought she looked so luminous and harmonious in the 2nd photo. Also, it’s a photo – she may look even more harmonious in real life in these colours, and even less suited to black in real life, too.

  • Ing-Marie Koppel

    Looking at Her with all the Drapes.
    The grey and the blue seem fairly neutral to me.
    I could wear those.
    But for me, I would change the pink one and the cool green one
    to mustard and a warm tomato red.

  • Rita

    I think this woman is a great example of the chameleon quality some of us have. Some people can wear different colors and styles and look pretty much the same, although some colors and textures will suit them better. This woman is entirely different in that she could almost be two different people. The second photo seems better. There is something here that is working, but I am wondering if going deeper or adding a tad of warmth will calm down the high rosy color. Rosy is lovely, but it seems a little too high (maybe ruddy?) for these pale cool colors. Maybe not, but I would be interested in seeing some other drapes to see if the skin balances a little more. Either way, she is a beautiful woman. The second picture seems closer to her natural beauty, but could she be improved even more with maybe another drape? I would be interested in seeing more. I love this post!

  • Fairixandra

    I’m sorry but I also think she looks much better in 1st photo. Her lips look blue and so do her teeth and undereye circles. I also notice wrinkles in the 2nd picture and I don’t in the first, but that might be the light. Also I assume that she is wearing some makeup, but I get the feeling that she’s not wearing any -in a bad way.

    What I think is wrong is that the woman is draped in a season that is too cool and weak for her in the 2nd pic. I would much prefer the orangey “before” lipstick on her and would change the blue drape to a bit richer colour, not necessarily darker but more saturated and maybe very slightly warmer. It would make her eyes glow a bit less, but I don’t think dramatic eyes are always a sign that you have your colours right – like here https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/25/b0/de/25b0de4e6e4b94af1716bb257c1ae773.jpg

  • Rita

    I rested my eyes and came back and realized she looks bright and these colors really reveal her. Never mind my earlier post. I am probably used to my own duller complexion and her rosiness surprised me a little.

  • E

    Definitely find the second photo more harmonious with her coloring. The red and black in the first are too harsh, so that you see the hair, the shirt, and the harsh shadows they cast on her face – which seems typical for non-winters wearing winter. In the second, you notice her face and particularly her eyes. The first gives a hectic and stressful feeling, the second, a calm and “open” one. She is more “there” instead of pushed back by her hair & clothes. I don’t know whether it’s perfect (maybe those drapes are too soft?) but it’s definitely better.

  • FFM

    Who cares about the drapes? All I see in the 2nd photo are bright sparkling blue eyes, gorgeous pink cheekbones, and a nice relaxed smile resting on smooth-looking skin. In other words, I see HER. I try to focus on her in the 1st photo, but all I could see are the bright red hair and black clothes. It almost seems like her face is straining to get our attention.

  • Late Gates

    1st Photo
    What I see…a woman who seems truly happy at that moment the photo was taken…and there is beauty in that energy. However, she’s not sure what color hair dye would be her best – she’s gone with a reddish tinge because maybe someone somewhere told her she was ‘autumny’ or she likes the energy behind it, or her stylist suggested it, or she had a natural reddish hue when young, or any other host of reasons…….and she’s gone with a black top because it felt safe/classic/stylish/easier to accessorize/comfortable/etc.

    But both the hair color and the black top look like things that have been added or painted onto the woman. There is a disconnect.

    2nd Photo
    Here is a woman who is not dressed for a party, who does not have her hair done and has just been draped and perhaps is seeing herself for the very first time in some of these colors. There is a beautiful melding between the colors and her skin and eyes and even hair….but she’s taking it all in and not sure what to make of it all yet.

    I think if we were to see a photo of her six months or a year from now in a top of one of her best new colors, with her hair and makeup done, with the same level of energy and happiness as in the first pic….there would be no argument over which photo would present the most beautifully ‘authentic’ version of this woman.

  • Late Gates

    Just another thought…the top photo gave my gut the feeling of a woman who could easily burn out…burning or being expected to burn brighter than the flame her soul actually is….but in the second photo…a woman whose inner spark is not going to run out of fuel, and which will burn steadily, because we see her inner strength and stability.

    If I wanted to hire someone to entertain my kids for 2 hours, I’d hire the top woman. If I wanted to hire someone to sit beside me while I go through a painful medical procedure, or give birth, I’d hire the bottom woman.

  • Linda McAllister

    Rather late comment here but I wanted to have a say as well after reading all the comments. In the first picture, I agree with one of the commenters that I ‘had to fight to ‘see’ her face… there is something ‘fake’ or unreal appearing in the smile to me, something forced. The red hair is gorgeous, but doesn’t look like it belongs. The word mask that someone used in their comment
    is perfect, it feels like a barrier or a wall is there in the first, and I’d have to get thru that wall to know the real person. In the second photo, I was awed by the soft and lovely beauty of this woman. She is grace personified. Her skin in the first looks oily and in the second , to me, seems to have the lovely and rare ‘pearl’ effect of a soft summer. She looks so accepting and full of grace that she appears to me as someone I’d love to know. Someone trustworthy and real, and absolutely genuine. No fake, no mask.

  • Jan

    I felt compelled to comment on these two photos again. Perhaps my initial reaction (post) was that in today’s world success means being dynamic, strong, powerful, outgoing (top photo) rather than calm, gracious, enduring, friendly (2nd photo). When actually we are all capable of “getting the job done” just each in our own way.

    I can see now that the 2nd photo captures this woman beautifully — who she really is, not who she was trying to be (top photo).

    Each time I see photos in the One Woman, Two Versions series, I am recognizing myself more and more. A big thank you to the beautiful women who participate and to Christine for initiating this thought-provoking exercise.

  • E

    FFM, I don’t think you understood me correctly. By “the drapes”, I mean the season itself seems a bit too soft for her. It drags her down, makes her look kind of tired. Soft summer, I guess? I wonder how she’d look something with just a little more clarity, like True Summer, Light Summer, or Light Spring.

  • Melina

    E, I agree, although my guess for the drapes would’ve been Light Summer πŸ˜‰ But yes, they do seem a bit too light and/or soft for her.

  • Lauren

    I agree that the first picture colours aren’t right for her….but there is something missing in the second. Not saying they look terrible, her skin looks better….they do look better….but they seem too dull and soft for her – like they’re dulling her down.

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